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Theological education in crisis
Michael Jensen
October 3rd, 2011

1. Theological education - meaning 'tertiary level academic theological study' - is under attack, from forces both within and without the church. It is seen by some as too expensive. Other see it as too impractical and too inflexible, in that theological education providers cannot give them the educational setting they would like in an area where online degrees and part-time study is proliferating. It is too academic and therefore too unspiritual in the eyes of some. And it is too slow for impatient young church planters or would-be church leaders who don't want to waste valuable gospelling years in the study.

2. Why do we need theological education?

a) for the spiritual health of churches, and the Christians in them. Knowledge and learning are not the whole of what it means to grow spiritually in the NT, but they are certainly major components of spiritual health and growth. Paul spends three years teaching the Ephesian elders, for example. Jesus gives the apostles 40 days - Peter's Acts 2 sermon didn't come out of nowhere!

b) for effectiveness in mission Once again, being well thought-through and informed is not the be-all and end-all of mission. But it sure helps! Paul is determined to 'take every thought captive' for the sake of the gospel of Christ (for example). And if we believe that the gospel applies across cultures and times then we commit ourselves to the difficult work of contextualization.

c) for the preparation of ministers for a life-long ministry Full-time ministry is a long haul in difficult conditions. People who are called into this task need as much deep-level preparation as they can get. Souls are at stake. Could we demand any less of them?

3. Who needs theological education?

The short answer: all Christians need to see themselves as learners and in the market for some theological education of whatever kind. And this means that church leaders - pastors, bible study group leaders, lay preachers - are in particular need of a more concentrated level of theological study. It is also the case that those who have particular opportunities to witness in their workplaces would benefit enormously from some higher level theological study - especially teachers and academics, but also many others too.

4. What to avoid in a theological education

a) an institution that majors on flexibility - if an institution is determined to give you what you want and to ask nothing of you, don't go there. Education in general has become a market, and students have become consumers. This has been a disastrous change in mentality - because true education actually asks us to become disciples and to submit to a process of learning from authoritative teachers.
 

b) an institution that makes sure you don't meet other students Online or distance education is what the market wants at the moment. But we need to keep reminding ourselves it is a poor third best.
 

c) an institution that doesn't have ministry in view as the goal of theological education - not just professional ministry of course, but the ministry that all Christians share in. Theological education exists to serve the church.


d) an institution that doesn't care or cares little about academic standards. If a college has fallen for the current fashion of ‘dumbing it down’, avoid it like the plague. Do not support it.

5. What to look for in a theological education

a) is the whole Scripture central and authoritative in the institution?
You can't claim to be studying the knowledge of God if you aren't taking the Scriptures with utmost seriousness, or if you are prizing other sources above holy Scripture.

b) is it theological?
I object to the term 'bible college' because the purpose of theological education is not to know the Bible better: it is to know God better. The word 'theology' indicates that study of the texts is the means and not the end. It also indicates that there will be a prayerful integration of the curriculum, and that the confessions and creeds of church history will have their place.

c) are the original languages emphasised?
Not every Christian or even every Christian leader needs to learn Greek and Hebrew to have an effective ministry, but I don't think theological study is really serious if it does not ask you to learn at least one of these languages. Given the choice, most people would NOT learn even Greek. Don't take the easy option - because serious study of the Scripture by someone who would teach God's people demands the harder path!

d) are Church History and Ethics and Philosophy a part of the course?
These subjects are all auxiliaries to the study of Theology in a way. But without them the theological task is scarcely complete.

e) is community life emphasised?
The nature of theological knowledge is that it is a shared knowledge - learning it on your own is counter to the kind of knowledge it is.

f) is there regular corporate worship and prayer?
Goes without saying.

g) are the practical ministry subjects taught in a theological way?
You aren't going into theological education to learn secular counselling methods, or bits of pop psychology.

h) is the theological curriculum calibrated for ministry and mission?
I would be asking why a theological curriculum does not address itself to the context in which those who are studying it are going to have to work. These days, it is simply not enough to say 'we teach the theology stuff, you work out how to put it into practice where you are'.

A clue is to ask current or recent students about their studies. If they say 'it was hard, but it was good' - then I think you have found a good place. If they say 'we had a ball' - I'd be worried. Proper theological education ought to be an uncomfortable exercise - it ought to stretch the student and challenge the student in ways that are sometimes unpleasant.

But having said that: there ought to be a joy in theological education. The knowledge of God ought to be joyful because it is the knowledge of God - the God of all mercies. There ought to be many, many glimpses of his glory in the experience of theological education!

 

Michael Jensen teaches doctrine at Sydney's Moore Theological College

Philip Griffin    03 October 2011 10:42pm
Having a solid theological education is essential. Learning how various doctrines affect everything we do is vitally important. I for one thank God for my own education at Moore Theological College, for I was taught how to think theologically. I wasn't just given information, I was taught a way to think.

May I add to Michaels' helpful post, let's be sure we continue to grow in our understanding of God and his world; let's keep working on the original languages, let's keep reading to extend ourselves, let's keep discussing theological truths with one another. It's easy to become lazy as the years roll by.

Finally, Michael, I notice that you never miss the opportunity to refer to 'corporate worship' so called. As you know, I disagree with you over this; but that is part of what makes for a good theological education- to be able to discuss and debate these issues in order that we might better understand what the Bible actually teaches.

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Michael Wells    03 October 2011 10:48pm
Thanks Michael,
Moore College, it was hard but it was good. Actually, the study itself wasn't as hard as everyone makes out. Before I went to College there was this kind of awe about its intellectual intensity. I worked in the hospitality industry, with no degree, and I got through ok. (So if you are thinking of Moore College but think you wont be up to it because of the scare stories, just go along anyway) The hardest part was probably being out of the workforce for four years.

All your points seem to focus on what an individual should be looking for in a theological education. Is there a place for thinking about what we should be looking for as a wider church? While not all of us are up to debating the finer points of theology, I sure am glad that there is a College in our diocese where people do.

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Michael Jensen    03 October 2011 10:55pm
Now, I don't want this to be merely an ad for Moore! But I thought I should disclose my interest.

@Michael, you ask a really great question. One of the pressures at the moment I think is between what lay people expect a theological education to provide (my sense is more hands-on skills, and more leadership training) and what it does actually provide (a robust education in Scripture and theology).

I don't think skills and leadership are bad things to study and indeed I think they are necessary to pastoral work. But is it the job of the theological college to provide these? Aren't these things best learnt in situ?

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Philip Griffin    04 October 2011 12:01am
@Michael, it is a little more complex than that. Whilst it's true that some expect a theological college to assume the training role a pastor has in a parish, it is also true that some want a person who is theologically trained to be able to apply what he has learned to how he acts and makes decisions in situ. Some guys really struggle with this; they understand theological truths very well, but don't always make the connections between what they know and what they do in parish.

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Kevin Russell    04 October 2011 12:22am
Yes - Thank you Michael with your thoughts. (and yes, for me it was all a bit of an academic struggle). It seems to me that you are writing about two inter-related areas - theological education and formation for ministry.

To declare my colours - I think that on-line methodology should be examined as it is a means to an end - and as all degrees are accredited under the AQF, certain minimum standards have to be met. But this is not formation!

So yes to aspects of community life (but not necessarily all living in) - a definate yes to corporate worship (what I call intentional worship) rather than a mere meeting. Thinking theologically is important.

Skills based compentency is also an important aspect of ministry - but that is not necessarily the main role of Moore, Ridley, St. Mark's et al. But in formation instilling an attitude for both theological hunger and ministry compentency is.

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Allan Patterson    04 October 2011 12:28am
Just a question. As part of training, do students get to spend a week or two with the rector of the parish they are attached to, to get a feel for parish ministry with all its ups and downs, or are they just limited to weekends?

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Philip Griffin    04 October 2011 12:35am
@Allan, students will tell you that their experience of training in the parish varies enormously. Some receive almost no input from the Senior Minister, others a great deal. This is a real problem. Some are given feedback, for example, after they have preached, but no help as to how to improve.

But again, in my view the biggest problem is the failure to make connections between the lecture room and practice. This is a complex issue, and deserves to be discussed at length.

@Kevin, some of us agree with you that thinking theologically is vitally important, but do not believe it is appropriate to use terms like 'corporate' or 'intentional worship' to describe the purpose of church. I do hope you were not implying only those who do use such terms believe that thinking theologically is important.

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Michael Jensen    04 October 2011 1:26am
(Kevin and Philip - let's not make the thread about the 'worship issue'. Not saying you were, but ... nuff said.)

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Kevin Russell    04 October 2011 1:39am
Michael - I have not intention of pursing that thread - I am merely saying that I think a theological college's main role (at undergraduate level) is both theological education and formation.

Now - how you achive that (the methods you use) is always open to both validation and evaluation. But as you indicate, no one is perfect, and resources are not unlimited. So you do the best you can with what you have got. And over the years, your college has done reasonably well in this respect.

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Philip Griffin    04 October 2011 1:47am
@Michael, do you have any comment on the struggle or quite a few guys to apply what they have learned in the parish context? (See comments above). This problem is not necessarily the fault of any theological college, but it is a problem.

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Michael Jensen    04 October 2011 2:03am
Thanks Kevin and Philip. And I think you have hit the nail on the head. I think one path is to recognise the limitations of what can be achieved in theological college in terms of formal training and to emphasise the complementary need for coalface training and reflection. The MTS programme was aiming to do that. The problem is helping people to reflect well - MTS and other training programmes work brilliantly when someone is there to help the student/trainee reflect critically on their work. But if MTS is just seen as cheap labour, then it doesn't facilitate that at all. (this is true of student ministry positions too).

But I'd like to hear from others.

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Eric Henry Wynter Best    04 October 2011 2:31am
Hi Michael,
I find myself in agreement with your criteria. I achieved my degree over a period of time, in three cities and at three theological insititutions. One was, IMHO, less than adequate, one was good and one excellent.
One concern that I have had is the cultural literacy of some theological students. Its one thing to learn the tradition, its another to connect it to culture and to understand the cultural context, or the dance between faith and culture. I think it is important to have some background in philosophy, anthropology, literature and cultural history.
I think it is also important for students to know the art how to relate to themselves - to recognise their own responses to texts and issues and to enquire what these responses say about themselves such that, through our texts, we become, not just 'knowers' but objects of knowing.

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Mark Baines    04 October 2011 3:08am
I can think of at least one example of practical considerations which are probably best studied at college rather than "in situ", pertinent to my focus in Youth Ministry: adolescent development. To study that as part of my Youth Ministry course at Moore (yes there is a Youth Ministry strand to the B.Th.) has been not only beneficial, it has possibly been essential to my thinking about how I will be a bible teacher to youth, and it was the sort of subject which probably should be studied at a tertiary academic level.
So if it's not studied at college, then where? Do we expect youth ministers to go to uni to study child development? A uni will not approach the topic from a theological point of view. Or is it more likely we just don't consider how development will shape our teaching and pastoring, playing it by ear and stumbling around in the dark?
I could name other youth ministry specific fields of knowledge which could be studied at college(and in my case are being studied, but I'm the only person doing currently doing the Youth Min strand), but that one jumps out at me.
Otherwise I agree with everything you've writen in the article, Michael.

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Suzanne Gorham    04 October 2011 4:52am
Thanks Michael for your article, I agree we must think carefully about the nature and content of theological education, and studying theology in a community such as Moore is an amazing privilege.
For me, in my circumstances as a young mum hungry to learn more about God, to reflect on His word and plough through Church history, there were few options available that could fit in with the reality of being married, looking after small children, and keeping a home (in relative) order. Most of my theological studies were done by distance (as is my current Masters), taught by reputable teachers, and the courses certainly fulfill most of the criteria you have suggested.
I think it is brilliant that there are now
external and distance courses available to people like me who are unable for whatever reason to go on campus and live-in at college, because we still have ministry roles we need to be equipped for too.
Cheers,
Suz

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Michael Jensen    04 October 2011 4:58am
Thanks Suz -
I agree: it is wonderful that there are part-time, online and distance options. But it is hard to offer these without them becoing the norm.

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Roger Gallagher    04 October 2011 5:52am
Hi Michael,

The tertiary education sector has expanded rapidly over the last 50 years, with a much higher proportion of the Australian population acquiring university-level qualifications. But one of the consequences of this is that most people go to university not to learn how to learn, but to get a qualification that will improve their ability to get a job.

This cultural mindset will impact the way that the average pewsitter, and those seeking theological education, will view theological education. They will have the view that they (or the theological students they or their church are supporting financially) should learn stuff that the student will actually use when they graduate. So all the hours spent on Greek & Hebrew? What's the point of learning dead languages when we already have the Bible in English? Far better to use that time, they'd argue, studying something practical - like understanding financial reports, counselling or how to chair a meeting.

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Roger Gallagher    04 October 2011 6:19am
A separate question come from the news back in April of the Blue Collar MTS scheme. http://www.sydneyanglicans.net/news/stories/mts_goes_blue_collar/. The model of theological education outlined above favours those who are academically-inclined. In Australia, that means university-educated, white or asian, and from a more affluent suburb. That description not only fits most Moore college students, but most of the people in our churches. Is the theological model outlined above hindering our ability to communicate the gospel to those who don't fit the middle-class, uni-educated stereotype?

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Ted Brush    04 October 2011 7:10am
Hi Michael, thanks for your thoughts. As a graduate of Moore College I personally want to testify to the great blessing of a solid theological education. (Though I confess to my own inadequacies!) However I think that there is one initiative that MTC should take as a priority and that is insisting that all students graduating from the college complete appropriate units of ministry experience in a vocational setting as a condition of graduation. This is common practice in medicine, vet science, engineering, accounting and many, many other degrees and it seems to me such a requirement would, under God, only improve outcomes for graduates of MTC.

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Michael Jensen    04 October 2011 7:17am
@Thanks Ted. The diocese of course insists upon this kind of thing through the MT&D programmes.

@Roger - this line of thinking concerns me. I think it is condescending to those from 'blue-collar' backgrounds to suggest that they a) aren't up to it and b) don't deserve the kind of ministry that is trained to the very highest level. We don't make that distinction in other professions. And, as it turns out, quite a number of people from blue collar backgrounds (so-called) have been to Moore (and other colleges too) and flourished.

That's another thing, too: an education can be delivered at a very high standard that still manages to work for people with little or no tertiary background. Very few people fail at Moore!

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Ron Bennett    04 October 2011 8:17am
@Michael #19,

do you think that few people fail at Moore because the vetting process is more stringent in who they allow to study there? I would be curious as to the minimum requirements to attend there.

As to your comment in #15, I struggle to understand why there distance education at Bible Colleges isn't promoted to a greater degree. It is flexible and allows those that are working to learn at a higher level and maybe discern whether full time is a "calling".

Just thoughts

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Michael Jensen    04 October 2011 10:05am
hi Ron - our only vetting process is the assumption that people have finished high school.

re distance learing: we of course have our Theological Certificate which thousands of people all over the world study by distance, and which has exactly the effect you name.

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Roger Gallagher    04 October 2011 10:18am
@Michael #19,

In part, I was deliberately taking an extreme position. I agree that Moore faculty members often go out of their way to provide support to struggling students.

However, the argument I mounted in #17 was partly based on the experience of a friend from a trade background who has struggled at Moore, and partly based on arguments I've heard from a couple of different people whom I respected at different times and with (to the best of my knowledge) no influence on each other. When that occurs, it raises the possibility that the argument might have some foundation, and I thought that this would be an appropriate place to air their concerns.

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Pete Sholl    04 October 2011 11:43am
@Ron #20

The Moore College External studies program is absolutely world class and provides the flexibility and introduction to theological study that many people use as part of the 'discernment' process that you mention.

http://external.moore.edu.au/Pages/Home.aspx

I completed 4 ThC subjects while working as engineer in the back blocks of the Philippines - that was significant for me in seriously thinking about studying full time (which I did). Now I'm teaching ThC subjects in Spanish to students in Latin America!

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Andrew Bruce    04 October 2011 8:26pm
@roger - hebrew may be dead to most theological students, but it is more 'living' than NT greek ;)

@michael j - is part of the issue college is wanting to include everyone, but at the same time losing some focus on what its main goal is? So it is a good thing MTC trains lots of independent students, but is that the main reason for having an anglican college in sydney?

At some points in life you need be clear what you are aiming at achieving and structure yourself to meet those goals?

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Michael Canaris    04 October 2011 11:30pm
I sometimes wonder what proportion of theological students become Marcionites around the time of their first Hebrew exam.

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Martin (Enkidu) Shields    05 October 2011 4:31am
Andrew, Biblical Hebrew is no more alive than NT Greek, I'm afraid.

One value (among many) in learning the original languages lies in the notion that we study not to be told the answers but to be given the tools so that we can find the answers and evaluate the answers of others?

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Philip Griffin    05 October 2011 4:48am
@Martin, some of us use NT Greek all the time. It's not entirely dead.

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Martin (Enkidu) Shields    05 October 2011 4:54am
Philip, it's still not more alive than Biblical Hebrew, and no where near as beautiful!

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Philip Griffin    05 October 2011 5:03am
Martin, how beautifully you put that. When I was at college Hebrew was not very strongly promoted, and it is a huge regret to me that I didn't study Hebrew then. My greek has improved steadily with every year since I left college, and I know others who would say the same thing. It's a great tool. I'm only sorry I don't have Hebrew as a second tool.

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Timothy Harris    05 October 2011 10:00am
Hi Michael. It was interesting to read your piece just after reading the Moore College 'Looking Forward' discussion paper. While I heartily affirm everything you note, the massive lacuna in the discussion paper and in your piece concerns the 'education' part of the picture. We are living in times of massive changes in pedagogical theory and praxis, and yet tertiary education, including theological education, is still operating on industrial era models. My contact with Moore is long past, so I have no awareness of how much pedagogical thinking is informing its approach to learning processes, but my impression from a distance is that it is still shaped by a focus on knowledge acquisition, and less on higher order thinking skills (to use Bloom's taxonomy). Students who have increasingly experienced a 'learner focused' approach to infants, primary and secondary education will increasingly feel frustrated by a 'curriculum delivery' mode at tertiary levels.

I am genuinely interested to know whether Moore is exploring questions of changing learning outcomes needed for 21st century leadership skills, and the education revolution that is shaping the face of 21st century modes of education. Are innovative educationalists part of the conversation in looking to the future?

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Michael Jensen    05 October 2011 10:56am
@Tim - I can't speak comprehensively. I think the picture is more nuanced, and that there is a balance between knowledge acquisition and 'higher order thinking skills'. We certainly make use of Bloom's in designing assignment tasks, for example and have for some time. We are in conversation with and seek the assistance of educational specialists. Different teachers do different things of course.

Having said that, my experience is that many adult students are actually frustrated by of the newer teaching methods, especially those which emphasise group learning at the expense of expert teaching. Group assessment is particularly loathed!

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Colin Murdoch    05 October 2011 11:03am
Thank you Michael for the article...You said:c) for the preparation of ministers for a life-long ministry Full-time ministry is a long haul in difficult conditions. People who are called into this task need as much deep-level preparation as they can get. Souls are at stake. Could we demand any less of them?

I think if we do not offer courses on a whole range of practical subjects that will equip men and women better for those entering pastoral parish ministry, chaplaincy, etc, we are failing these called people, those within their parishes and dioceses on a daily basis as the second decade of the 21st century moves on...

It's time to celebrate the great things currently being done at places like Moore College, but also to examine, improve upon and reinvigorate ministry training that is relevant to the needs experienced in Parishes and other places now; so we can make a more Unique and Greater Kingdom Difference!

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Eric Henry Wynter Best    05 October 2011 11:53am
In an earlier post I mentioned my experience in three theological colleges. The most disappointing to me was one where the focus was training ordinands. It was as if they were training sales people - if they were Hoover, they’d be training people to sell vacuum cleaners. Because of ordinands desire to get through the system, there was a pressure to conform to the college’s orthodoxy and genuine theological reflection and exploration was stifled.

My best college experience was enjoyed in my last 18 months. This was at the Catholic Theological Union in Hunters Hill (Marist Fathers) and Turramurra (Columbans). It was like a breath of fresh air. A major reason this, I think, was that it was focussed on lay education. These people were usually older, already with careers and were under no pressure to conform, and the training clearly emphasised ‘higher order thinking skills’ - learning to think (and act) theologically. I was particularly impressed by the missionaries I met there, connected with the Columbans, who had come in from the mission field on study sabbatical. These were seasoned workers for God’s kingdom: their ability to engage in deep praxis was inspiring. I was left with the impression that there is still a vitality in Christianity where the mission of Jesus is palpably alive and well and where the rubber truly meets the road.

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Robert James Elliott    05 October 2011 8:31pm
Michael Canaris: Brilliant!

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Timothy Harris    06 October 2011 5:41am
@Michael - I'm very encouraged to hear about concern for the educational side of things a Moore. I have a real passion not just that we seek academic excellence in theological education (and original language study is indispensable for that) - I am even more passionate about educational excellence, bringing significant new paradigms (including 'multiple intelligences') to bear on the need to make quality theological reflection accessible to a much wider audience than has traditionally been the case. While I think face-to-face contexts are invaluable, I am also a big believer in a more intentional strategy of 'go to where people are', utilising well-established modes of online resourcing together with context-based blended learning approaches.

Far from being in crisis, I believe theological education is at the threshold for some significant new approaches that can avoid the elitism of the past. Re. frustrations with group tasks - keep at it! It needs to be a learning outcome in its own right - reflecting one of the most important relational dimensions so urgently needed in team-based ministry in all manner of contexts today.

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Michael Jensen    06 October 2011 7:41am
@Tim - of course, I am all for flexibility and accessibility that online and distance ed allows for. But we must watch carefully - a concession to those who can't access face-to-face learning quickly becomes a norm. In the UK, the traditional theological colleges are under threat because the diocesan bishops want a quicker and cheaper way to get their chiefly late middle aged candidates trained and ordained. Why would anyone go to all the inconvenience of face-to-face learning if they can get away with less?

I take what you say about 'multiple intellgences' and so on, but those things are scarcely new. I remember hearing about them in the early 1990s, when I was teaching high school.

We had a nice discussion in chaplaincy group about the theological education experience today. It revealed quite a divergence of opinion as to what the best way to learn is!

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Michael Canaris    06 October 2011 8:35am
On the UK situation, this post by John Richardson seems pertinent.

With regards to Australia, I'm curious how the Melbourne College of Divinity's recent promotion to University status will pan-out.

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Nicky Lock    06 October 2011 9:37am
One of the threads in this discussion seems to be about how graduates take their theological education out into parishes and apply it pastoral situations. Michael comments
The problem is helping people to reflect well - MTS and other training programmes work brilliantly when someone is there to help the student/trainee reflect critically on their work.

So how are we helping people to reflect well? In Kenneth Pohly's definition of what pastoral supervision is he says
Pastoral supervision is method of doing and reflecting on ministry in which the supervisor and the supervisee reflect together on their ministry as a way of growing in self awareness, theological understanding and Christian commitment

However not many senior ministers are trained to assist their MTS workers in this way. St Marks NTC is introducing a training program for professional pastoral supervision in 2012 in Sydney to meet this gap. So maybe there are some reading this post who have a real heart for growing and developing new ministers who would be interested in doing this training?

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Chris Holding    09 October 2011 10:26pm
Thank you for your article Michael, I agree that there are many treacherous waters to navigate when choosing an institution for theological education.

For those training in youth ministry this challenge is amplified as standards for theologically grounded youth ministry varies from church to church.

With this in mind, would you be able to share your thoughts on the place of specialised theolgical study (ie youth ministry) within the "Theological education in crisis"?

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Timothy Harris    09 October 2011 10:58pm
@ Michael J - you are quite right that working with 'multiple intelligences' and the like is hardly new. Integrating such dimensions is common-place - in primary and secondary education. However, recognising that is precisely my point about tertiary education, and TE in particular - where it is barely recognised and rarely incorporated into assessable tasks.

In my view, this to a significant extent accounts for the growing sense of frustration for those who have experienced more learner-focused education prior to hitting more traditional tertiary modes. The irony is that 'higher education' is in the main conducted by academics with no training in education, and whose default mode is in training the small minority of students who will continue on to become academics themselves. Tertiary educators with a background in education - such as yourself :) - are the exception rather than the norm.

When I was presenting a seminar on this to theological educators here in NZ recently, the group included the education faculty whose feedback was enlightening - they reflected that they had despaired for years at the extent that theological educators generally don't understand common educational paradigms and approaches that achieve much better outcomes in educational terms. Nothing I said was particularly new, but the feedback from the theological faculty varied from enthusiasm to skepticism about academic standards.

IMO, educational innovation is essential, not optional.

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Simon Finley    11 October 2011 3:10am
Hi Michael. Thanks for the article and plenty of good food for thought.

Just wondering how much emphasis you think we should put on looking at the "finished product" or the character the students who come out of a particular college? Would this be (part of) a good test in what to look for in a college?

And also, how much emphasis would you put on your objection to the title "Bible college" say, if it had that in it's title for historical reasons, but was as theological as you describe, in nature?

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