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Will Counselling Help Us?
Nicky Lock
October 11th, 2009

One of the sad things that I encounter from time to time is couples who come for counselling when their marriage is in tatters and the damage seems irreparable. In the first session, it becomes apparent that the problems they are dealing with have been present for a very long time. I wonder to myself (and sometimes to the client) why they have taken so long to get help.

One of the reasons seems to be that people do not understand how counselling might help them; another being an unwillingness to admit that there are problems which they have had difficulty solving.

So what does happen with a professional counsellor and how does it differ from the pastoral care or counsel you might receive from your minister? In the St Marks Cert VI in Christian Counselling Course we take the definitions from Gary Collins in his book "Christian Counselling" that differentiate between these:

Pastoral care: "the churches' overall ministries of healing, sustaining, guiding and reconciling people to God and to one another".

Pastoral Counselling: "A variety of healing methods to help people deal with problems in ways that are consistent with Biblical teaching".

Pastoral Psychotherapy: "A long term, in depth helping process that attempts to bring fundamental changes in the counsellee's personality, spiritual values and ways of thinking. It..seeks to remove blocks, often from the past, that inhibit personal and spiritual growth".

These descriptions indicate the increasing depth of work that may need to done in someone's life in order to overcome their problems.

When exploring with a couple what help they are seeking from counselling, common themes usually emerge, such as better communication, ways of handling conflict, and difficulties with intimacy. However what makes each situation unique is not the area where work needs to be done, but discovering and working with what is hindering someone from behaving in the way they know they should!

Paul's lament, "For I have the desire to do what is good, but I cannot carry it out. For what I do is not the good I want to do; no, the evil I do not want to do"”this I keep on doing" (Romans 7: 18, 19) illustrates the dilemma that most couples bring to counselling. They already know how to behave as civilised human beings, but seem unable to do it. Uncovering personal wounding and sinful ways of responding to that wounding can be an important step in counselling.

Hence, counselling is not as simple as giving the client good advice. When we teach our new students at St Marks that they do not have to have the answers and tell the clients what to do, they are greatly relieved. Instead, their role is to:

"¢ Listen carefully and empathically to the client, bearing witness to the client's distress
"¢ Assist the client to determine their own goals for counselling
"¢ Carefully explore with them the history and understand the development of the problem
"¢ Collaboratively, develop new ways of achieving their desired outcomes
"¢ With deeper, longstanding situations, work with the personal and spiritual matters that are blocking them from moving forward.

The Christian counsellor brings to this process an integrated, holistic knowledge of personhood drawn from Biblical truths and common knowledge. He or she also brings their skills of understanding and empathy, their knowledge of helpful and unhelpful ways of tackling situations, and of likely contributors to difficulties in personal growth.

So do these processes help? Research shows that there are 4 contributing factors to effectiveness in counselling: 

"¢ External social and environmental factors account for 40% of change
"¢ The client / counsellor relationship accounts for 30%
"¢ The client's expectation about the counselling accounts for 15%
"¢ The specific theory or methodology accounts for 15%.

These figures would indicate that when a good attitude, outside influences for change, a counsellor who knows what they are doing, and with whom you have a good relationship, counselling helps. My plea is that you seek it sooner rather than later.

Matthew Pettett    12 October 2009 1:23am
Hi Nicky,

Thanks for your article. I really enjoyed reading it.

It seems that at the moment the only place to be counselled with the techniques you're talking about is from a professional. What do you think about incorporating these techniques into pastoral care and the training that paid ministers would receive?

Matt

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Shane Rogerson    12 October 2009 2:47am
seems to me there is biblical / pastoral counselling that every pastor needs to be trained in and practicing as part of what it means to disciple people to maturity,

then there is specialist counseling to deal with more complex relational issues that can be best but not exclusively done apart from the churches care

it is interesting to note that the upcoming synod appropriations budget has reduced marriage and personal couselling through Anglicare from $114K to $0 for next year.

will this mean more onus placed on the local church in providing specialist counseling?

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Joanna Hayes    12 October 2009 3:02am
That is a real shame to hear about the drop in funding. Counselling is a vital community service both for the church community and as a way of blessing our wider community.

My life has been changed incredibly for the better by Christian counselling and it wouldn't have been possible for me as a full-time uni student were it not for the subsidies made possible by the church funding Anglicare.


Is it simply being withdrawn from the budget due to lack of funds? Or is the money being directed elsewhere?

I would argue strenuously for funding of counselling through Anglicare at Synod if I had the opportunity.

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Shane Rogerson    12 October 2009 3:19am
Well it's both I guess
there is less money to allocate
and other ministries have got that $114k
talk to your rector or synod reps i guess

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Jeremy Halcrow    12 October 2009 4:25am
With an average 50% cut across the board it was a no-brainer cut the Synod grant for counselling given that Anglicare has assured everyone it wont actually impact frontline services.

My understanding is that Anglicare will maintain their counselling services through a combination of their own funds and Govt funding.

Further Anglicare is really pushing for parish partnerships so that counselling can be offered on-site and in consultation with pastoral ministry. A very good model IMHO.

I'm sure an Anglicare staffperson can clarify my limited knowledge.

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Nicky Lock    12 October 2009 4:41am
As an Anglicare counsellor, I can confirm that a number of parishes have made available funds to support a parish based Anglicare counsellor who can become part of the parish team.

I would love to see more ministers undertaking a basic level of counselling training such as the St Marks Cert IV which would expand their pastoral "toolbox" to cope with the simpler cases. I have trained a number of Anglican ministers who have said the training has been transformational for themselves, assisting both their pastoral and preaching ministry.

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Shane Rogerson    12 October 2009 5:02am
there you have it, counseling based in the parish and paid for by the parish.

pilgrims podcast recently did an episode on pastoral counseling with some Anglicare counselors and it was quite compelling - you can find it on itunes.


(Jeremy, I was thinking I might set up a media ministry in our parish with our vast resources and technology savvy - what do you think?!)

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Jeremy Halcrow    12 October 2009 5:32am
Want to offer me a job? ;)

I think the difference between counselling and some other ministries that have been cutback is that some Government funding is available.

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Joanna Hayes    12 October 2009 7:27am
That's fantastic to hear about the parish based funding - I'm glad that government funding also supplement's Anglicare's counselling work, but does that really mean we shouldn't fund it? It seems a little bit weird to may that a decrease of $117k in funding wouldn't make a difference on the frontline.

Anyway, the parish thing sounds excellent, and yes Nicky, I'd love to see more ministers undertaking a course in counselling as well! Has the Australian College of Theology and/or independent Bible colleges been approached in order to promote the course or advocate for it's inclusion alongside other subjects at college?

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Matthew Pettett    12 October 2009 7:38am
As an Anglicare counsellor, I can confirm that a number of parishes have made available funds to support a parish based Anglicare counsellor who can become part of the parish team.


hooray!

I would still love to see training colleges include a subject on this (Youthworks has something like it). We seem so well versed in many areas of theology and life etc but not this one. Because of that, I think the cost-benefit ratio would be a lot more positive for a subject on counselling than most other subjects on offer.

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Matthew Pettett    12 October 2009 7:43am
Just read your comment Joanna. I couldn't agree more.

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Nicky Lock    12 October 2009 8:07am
Joanna - The St Marks course is a nationally accredited course under the Australian Qualifications Framework and articulates into other tertiary courses. ACT and SCD have not been specifically approached re articulation, but as Course Coordinator, maybe I should have a conversation with them!

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Peter Smith    12 October 2009 8:13am
Thanks for raising the issue. I am interested in the place of psychotherapy. There has been a strong reaction over recent years to Primal Therapy and related methods. CBT is flavour of the month at the moment among many of the pschiatrists and psychologists becuase the alternatives have not proven very effective.

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Nicky Lock    12 October 2009 9:07am
Peter, you touch on what has been the cause for heated debate in many quarters over the past 25 years. CBT has been widely researched in universities and given the "big tick" as an evidence based practice. Other evidence based practices are Emotionally Focused therapy, Narrative and other strengths based therapies. Primal therapy is rarely talked about these days in psychotherapy circles, but there is a growing body of evidence for the effectiveness of long term psychotherapy for the 40% of cases that do not have a lasting response to CBT. The challenge for a Christian working in this area is to be certain that their practice allows for integration of Biblical truths and placing appropriate emphasis for the "client's" Christian life in their counselling.

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Peter Smith    12 October 2009 9:21am
Thanks Nicky for clarifying. One of my concerns as a pastor is the way that congregations are caring for those with real, deep and ongoing psychological problems. It is very difficult in small congregations to care for a number of problem people. The small congregation can become weary and often finds it difficult to attract new people - prospective members run a mile Conversely, it is difficult in a large church to care for people with 'deep issues' because, in the large church, it is easy to hide from the 'difficult people'.

I suspect most of us find the prospect of taking on 'long term psychologically disturbed'people exhausting. Great when it happens - and our churches should have these kinds of people. Any suggestions?

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Nicky Lock    12 October 2009 9:25am
This is indeed a difficult area for congregations. My own church is struggling greatly right now with such an issue. Can I make responding to this question the topic for my next blog?

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Peter Smith    12 October 2009 9:27am
I look forward to reading. Thanks.

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Mark Earngey    12 October 2009 1:38pm
Nicky, thanks for the blogpost. I really found those bullet-points you listed to be helpful. Especially since I've recently been really humbled by considering my past mistakes and tendencies to want to be a problem 'fixer'!

As Shane's noted, as part of a series we're doing on Pastoral Care, Counselling and Psychology, we've recently interviewed two wonderful pastoral carers (Anglican Retirement Villages and Anglicare) about similar things. If anyone is keen to learn more (along with me!), please feel free to have a listen to our little Pilgrim's Podcast (http://www.earngey.info/podcast-2/).

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Jim Wackett    13 October 2009 3:00am
*puts ANGLICARE hat on* Jeremy #5 and Joanna #9: While ANGLICARE have maintained current levels of funding for counselling it has been at a cost to the organisation. It has meant using $100,000 that would have gone into other services. While we do get some government funding, the Diocesan funding for counselling allowed us to work where we wanted with no contractual ties to government. I would hate to think people thought the diocese could remove $100,000 from ANGLICARE with no impact. We of course would like to seek funding for counselling once again when the diocese is back on its feet. *takes ANGLICARE hat off*

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Jill Wrathall    13 October 2009 7:21am
Also, with my ANGLICARE hat on, it's important to note that all our ANGLICARE Counsellors have a high standard of professional Counselling qualifications and experience, while working within a Christian framework. Pastoral Care and Counselling courses such as the one Nicky refers to can be very helpful for ministers and others in their pastoral role within a parish.
When churches approach ANGLICARE with a desire to employ an ANGLICARE Counsellor, we are very happy to consider the possibilities. This can be done by an individual well resourced church or a group of churches within a region working together to gather funding.

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Joanna Hayes    13 October 2009 9:06am
Very interesting. It seems Jim that you're essentially saying the money is useful, and that it particularly frees Anglicare to be involved in areas it wouldn't otherwise be involved in?

Without a broader understanding of the Diocesan budget, I obviously can't form a firm opinion, but on the surface, it seems to me that funding for counselling is seen as expendable.


And I think that's a shame.

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Joanna Hayes    15 October 2009 10:23am
Ooh, and Nicky re: your #12 comment - I think that would be great :-) Wouldn't it be wonderful to expand the number of people with that sort of training.

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