The former Dean of Sydney, Phillip Jensen, has been joined by his brother, former Archbishop Peter Jensen, in a refashioning of the podcast Two Ways News.

The podcast was previously hosted by Phillip Jensen and Tony Payne. 

Mr Payne said in the last episode of 2024 that “the ‘Yes’ that I gave to joining the faculty at Moore College, unfortunately, entails a number of ‘Nos’ – and being able to drive this weekly podcast with Phillip is one of them.
“I will miss it! It’s been an enjoyable privilege to interact not just with Phillip but with you, our readers and listeners, over the past 100-plus episodes. But God has something new for me to do at Moore, including taking up the directorship of The Centre for Christian Living once again – so I will not be entirely done with podcasting.”

In the first episode of 2025, Mr Jensen introduces his brother Peter as the new co-host. “This year we're looking at Genesis,” he says in the first episode. “Last year we worked our way through Romans and we just thought, well, the opening chapters of Genesis open up so many questions for us that it'll be a great passage to have as the backbone of the year. 

“We'll deal with other topics at different times of course... keep listening because it's not here just for entertainment. We're also here for learning.”

The camaraderie of the brothers is evident, although subtle. “Peter is at least enjoying it," Mr Jensen jokes. "I saw a smile on his face."

The combination of two of the most senior figures in Australian Christianity is set to boost subscriber numbers. Peter Jensen retired as archbishop in 2013 to concentrate on work for the Global Anglican Fellowship, or Gafcon, and Phillip Jensen stepped down as Dean in 2014 to move to Two Ways Ministries. Both men have also continued on with extensive speaking ministries.

Public episodes of the podcast are available to anyone, but there is also a subscriber option that gives access to more episodes and other resources through substack.